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Financial Independence Basics with Jackie Cummings Koski | Ep 564

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Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media

Financialindependence, Investing, Firemovement, Passiveincome, Frugalliving, Personalfinancepodcast, Daveramsey, Careers, Business, Earlyretirement, Habits

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Jackie Cummings Koski returns to discuss the fundamental principles of financial independence (FI) and early retirement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding FI—financial independence lets individuals no longer depend on a paycheck, offering options and freedom in life. Jackie shares insights on creating habits, starting small with savings, and the invaluable impact of community on one's financial journey. Strategies such as evaluating expenses and adopting an action-focused mindset are crucial. The duo explores essential concepts like the 4% rule, the significance of compound interest, and how everyday expenses can affect one's FI number, leading to powerful benefits over time. This episode serves as both a refresher for seasoned FI enthusiasts and a primer for newcomers.

Key Takeaways:

  • Understanding FI enables individuals to regain control over their finances and lives.
  • Saving money is about liberation, not deprivation; small changes can yield significant benefits over time.
  • The power of community is invaluable in the FI journey; joining groups can provide motivation and insights.
  • Evaluating and optimizing expenses can lead to increased savings and a lower FI target.
  • The 4% rule helps determine how much one can safely withdraw from retirement savings.

Timestamps:

  • 00:00:00 - Podcast Intro
  • 00:01:08 - Introduction of Jackie Cummings Koski
  • 00:03:02 - Back to Basics of FI
  • 00:04:31 - Defining Financial Independence
  • 00:08:23 - Importance of Saving Money
  • 00:12:07 - Building Habits
  • 00:46:07 - Understanding Your FI Number
  • 01:01:02 - Community and Support
  • 01:09:24 - Conclusion

Important Quotes:

  • "FI means financial independence; RE means retiring early." (00:04:31)
  • "Saving money liberates you, it’s not deprivation." (00:08:23)
  • "Empower yourself by changing your financial dynamic." (00:05:40)
  • "In investing, doing less often yields more." (00:24:40)
  • "Save $100/month to potentially lower your FI target by $30,000." (00:47:04)

Actionable Takeaways:

  • Track Your Expenses: Start examining where your money goes to identify areas for potential savings. (Timestamp: 00:41:19)
  • Join a Community Group: Participate in a local ChooseFI group to gain support and motivation. (Timestamp: 01:01:02)
  • Develop Saving Habits: Make a habit of saving even small amounts each month to establish a strong financial foundation. (Timestamp: 00:12:07)

Discussion Questions:

  • How can tracking expenses help in achieving financial independence? (Timestamp: 00:41:19)
  • What strategies can the community provide for those just starting their FI journey? (Timestamp: 01:01:02)
  • F.I.R.E for Dummies BookLink (Timestamp: 00:02:43)
  • Catching Up to FI PodcastLink (Timestamp: 01:09:22)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose Up Five. Today in the show, we have my good friend Jackie Cummings,

0:03.9

Kosky, who's back for the first time in five years, and she is now the co-host of the

0:10.1

Catching Up to Five podcast and the author of Fire for Dummies. And she's also a certified financial

0:16.0

planner. I thought she'd be the perfect person to help me with an episode that I've been wanting to put

0:21.5

together for a while, which is really a back to basics episode. This is, okay, we could call it

0:26.6

fire for dummies, but it's really, what do you do when you're getting started? What are the actions

0:31.2

you can take? Why are we doing this? What does FI mean? And this episode is not just for people who are getting started. I think really

0:38.9

this is a refresher for all of us. We touch on a lot of really interesting things in this episode,

0:43.7

especially the value of $100 per month. And I think you're going to be really surprised with this.

0:49.6

I think it's absolutely fascinating. And this episode really exceeded my expectations.

0:55.7

I think this is an important one.

0:57.1

I think you're going to get a lot out of it.

0:58.7

And with that, welcome to choose that five.

1:08.0

Jackie, welcome back to choose that five.

1:10.3

It has been far too long, my friend. It has, Brett, but this is

1:14.0

exciting. You guys were literally at the peak of my FI journey and helped me make sense of it all.

1:20.1

So I owe you guys a big thank you. Well, I appreciate you being there. And literally from the very

1:26.1

beginning, you found Chuzafi, think, five episodes into the show in 2017.

1:30.9

I sure did. I remember when I started listening, I'm like, how did I miss this one? I'm like, how many more can I go back and listen to? And there was only five. And I think this was, what, 2017?

1:39.2

Yeah, yeah. And I ended up retiring about three years later, December 2019.

1:44.7

So I started moving fast after I started listening to Choose FI.

1:48.7

That is amazing.

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