LA has the largest jail system in the country.

You got people that been in jail just like one time and their life can't get nothing because of whatever mistake they made.

I stole some ground turkey because I wanted to feed my family.

We was hungry.

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From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters and this is the business. He would also, you know, explain to people why we were

there and why we were making this project and that we weren't law enforcement because a lot of

people immediately were very suspicious of us. Filmmaker Jack Rick Gobona was an obvious outsider

when he started filming gang life on the White Earth Indian Reservation

in northern Minnesota. He got access thanks to Rob Brown, one of the film's subjects and

the veteran of numerous incarcerations. Rickobono and producer Chris Eyre talk about the making

of their documentary, The Seventh Fire, and the challenge of finding distribution,

even with backers including Natalie Portman, Terence Malick, and former Sumner Redstone girlfriend,

Sydney Holland.

But first on the news banter, the birth of a nation opens as filmmaker Nate Parker

struggles to keep the focus on his movie.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany of the Hollywood Reporter.

Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

Sitting here right now, we don't know exactly where the birth of a nation.

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