Regressing to the mean since 2015, it's the Hockey PEDEOCast with your host, Dmitri Filipovich.

Welcome to the Hockey PEDEOCast. My name is Dimitra Filippovich, and joining me as my good buddy, Jesse Marshall. Jesse, what's going on, man?

Happy New Year. I don't know if it's appropriate to say that on the 17th, but this is the first time I've seen you this year, so I'm going to do it.

I think we're way past it being socially unacceptable to do so, but I appreciate it all the same. And it's the first film club of 2025 as well.

And you know what?

If there was ever a sign that it is truly a new year, it's me and you picking a defenseman

to break down.

We've been doing forwards all year, even stretching back to previous seasons.

But we finally decided to pick one.

Now I will say we're doing Zach Wrenski today. We're going to break down the magnificent season he's having,

all the tape that he's put out there for us to enjoy. It does feel like cheating a little bit,

because as we're going to discuss when we talk about Wrenski's game today, you go through it, and

he's really stretching the definition of what a quote unquote defenseman is

and that's not meant at all as a knock in terms of thinking of him as being defensively irresponsible

or lacking in any way it's just that he's pushing the envelope offensively so much and creating

so much offense for this Columbus blue Jackets team that he's really

serving as a forward forward out there for them in a lot of these instances at least functionally.

And so he is a defenseman in terms of position and he will be in the Norris discussion.

But man, this guy's playing like one of the best forwards in the league right now.

He is.

But I'm going to, I'm going to deviate from what you just said

and also give a mention to his defensive game, which has been extremely good. I think that's

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