From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

What's the big deal with Toferky?

Well, the ACLU of Arkansas recently sued the state over a law that would prohibit

Toferky and other makers of meat substitutes from using the word meat on any of its packaging.

But that's just one of the remarkable cases being tried in Arkansas right now.

For a small state, it's got a lot going on.

This year alone, the ACLU of Arkansas has litigated cases ranging from the boycott of foreign entities, the right to ask

passers-by for assistance, the right to abortion, and the constitutionality of religious

symbols outside government buildings, among many others. Today, we'll be talking with Holly Dixon,

the legal director and interim executive director of the ACLU of Arkansas, which is celebrating

its 50th anniversary this year. A lifelong Arkansas, Holly has spent her career fighting for civil

rights and civil liberties in the state, and she's been with the ACLU since 2006. We'll ask

her what's it like to work at the ACLU of Arkansas in the current political climate and why the state has so many fascinating cases at the moment. Holly, thanks very much for joining us. Welcome to the podcast. I'm delighted to be with you today. Thank you, Emerson. So, Holly, we've been wanting to talk to you for quite some time, but you've understandably been very, very busy. So now that we have you, can you tell us what's going on with

Arkansas? Why so much? So, Holly, we've been wanting to talk to you for quite some time, but you've understandably been very, very busy.

So now that we have you, can you tell us what's going on with Arkansas?

Why so many big cases this year?

There are always big cases out of Arkansas.

For a small state, we have lots of issues always.

Now, if it's a case that we can try to resolve without having to file suit, we almost always try to do that because it's best for the client. It's best for the cause. We save our gunpowder for the litigation that we have to bring. There's a lot of students' rights or education issues that we resolve and the public never hears about because the last thing that a

public school student typically needs is a federal lawsuit. If we can get someone's free speech

rights reinstated or their voting rights reinstated without having to litigate, that's what's

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