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The Brian Lehrer Show

Fighting Fascism with Education

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

AFT president Randi Weingarten talks about her new book , "Why Fascists Fear Teachers".

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

0:13.3

Good morning again, everyone.

0:15.2

Teachers are on the front lines of democracy.

0:19.7

That's the argument made by Randy Weingarten, president of the

0:23.0

American Federation of Teachers, former president of the local New York City chapter, in her new

0:28.4

book, Why Fascists Fear Teachers, Public Education, and the Future of Democracy. In it,

0:34.7

she traces a long history of authoritarian leaders, Hitler, Mussolini, Putin,

0:39.3

and she cites right-wing activists here in the United States seeking to control or discredit teachers.

0:45.3

Why? Because she says education cultivates the habits of democracy, critical thinking,

0:51.3

pluralism, opportunity, and collective action.

0:55.0

We'll talk with Randy Weingarten about why she believes public schools are

0:58.2

democracy's engine and what she thinks today's attacks on teachers reveal about the political

1:03.4

moment we're in and what she thinks anyone should do about it.

1:06.8

We'll also get into some issues in the news like why she recently quit the Democratic National

1:12.4

Committee. Randy Weingarten, welcome back to WNYC.

1:16.1

Oh, Brian, it is my honor. Every time I talk to you, I feel, you know, the connection to

1:22.5

New York City. So thank you for having me on.

1:25.5

That's very nice. Thank you very much. And listeners, we love to hear from you.

1:29.3

Did a teacher in your life help you think more critically or help you see a role as a citizen differently?

1:35.7

How is your experience with public education shaped the way you view democracy?

1:40.2

You know, President Trump and his allies argue schools don't always open students' minds,

1:44.5

but sometimes indoctrinate them from the left.

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