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MMA Fighting

Fighter vs Writer: Matt Brown Argues Jon Jones Needs to Fight Tom Aspinall, Not Alex Pereira Plus Who Is Left for Merab Dvalisvhili?

MMA Fighting

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Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

On the latest episode of The Fighter vs. The Writer, UFC legend Matt Brown and Damon Martin react to UFC 320 including Alex Pereira tearing through Magomed Ankalaev in just 80 seconds, which was a worst case scenario for Ankalaev. With the win Pereira is calling for a fight against Jon Jones but Brown makes his argument that Jones needs to fight Tom Aspinall and nobody else. Plus we’ll discuss Merab Dvalishvili’s latest win over Cory Sandhagen and if there’s anybody really left for him to fight at bantamweight? Plus much more Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:25.1

I'm Damon Martin.

1:25.9

He is UFC legend Matt Brown and Matt.

1:28.2

We are now living in a post-UFC 320 world where Alex Pereira is once again champion

1:33.0

and Marab de Wileshvili is still champion.

1:37.6

And Yuri Pajaska is a madman.

1:39.8

So pretty solid event overall.

1:42.8

Yeah, I guess other than the main event, pretty well about what we expected, right?

1:49.0

I think most people, including me and you, called them pretty close.

1:52.9

And then except I guess me and you got the main event wrong, which we've been kind of even a lot lately on that, I think.

2:01.0

Yeah, I listen, what Alex Perey did on Saturday was unreal.

2:06.8

Like, he treated Maga Man and Goliath with zero respect.

2:11.2

Like, he just went out there and was like, because we heard all the stories.

2:14.9

You know, he had problems in his training camp.

2:16.9

He wasn't at his best. And, you know, we hear that, you know, when you problems in his training camp. He wasn't at his best.

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