Fighter vs. Writer: Matt Brown Addresses Khamzat Chimaev Winning a ‘Boring’ Title Fight Plus What’s Next for Aaron Pico After Devastating Knockout Loss

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🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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On the latest episode of The Fighter vs. The Writer, Matt Brown and Damon martin react to everything that unfolded at UFC 319 including Khamzat Chimaev shutting down Dricus du Plessis to become middleweight champion in the main event. As dominant as it was, did Chimaev deserve criticism for not taking more chances to potentially go for a finish? Plus we discuss Aaron Pico suffering a devastating knockout loss in his octagon debut and where Lerone Murphy goes from here with that win. We’ll also talk about Carlos Prates’ spinning back elbow knockout and where he ranks among the hardest hitting welterweights of all time plus much more. Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.1	You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.
1:26.9	You're listening to the Fighter versus the writer.
1:41.1	I'm Damon Martin.
1:42.1	He is UFC legend Matt Brown and Matt.
2:20.2	I have to eat a little crow on this Monday as we record this episode because one of us was right and one of us was completely wrong and I was completely wrong. Drickus Duplice did not do what I thought he was going to do. Instead, it was Hamzaa Chamae of dominating for five rounds, becoming the new UFC middleweight champion. And you were front and center for the event in Chicago. Yeah, what a great event, man. I'll tell you what, that was, I've been to a decent amount of UFCs. That was one of the better crowds. I mean, you know, of course we dealt with the whole USA chance, even when, I think even when, like, American guys weren't fighting, they weren't even, like,
2:23.3	cheering for the American guy, and they would still chant USA.
2:29.4	I think they even started chaining it a little bit during the DDP and Homs off fight.
2:31.2	And I was like, neither one of these guys are Americans.
2:32.1	You guys know that?
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