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Festival Circuit Newport Folk E4: Surround Hate & Force It to Surrender (Re-Release)

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Matt Dwyer

Music History, Music

51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

We're hearing a lot about diversity and inclusion these days (which is great!) but as we'll learn in this episode, those two words and what they stand for are at the very core of what guided the earliest days of Newport Folk and Jazz over sixty years ago, continuing to this day. And as we know, there is still much work to be done to make our world a just and equal place. Listen in as the women of Our Native Daughters share the experience of their powerful performance at Newport in 2019, their mission of amplifying the perspectives of Black American women from the time of slavery through the present, and discuss the ongoing need for better representation across genres - in particular Americana and Country - that have their roots in the black community, and at events like Newport Folk. Amplifying women's voices, and women of color, is an important part of this conversation, too, and Yola speaks on the importance of The Highwomen's debut at Newport Folk and Brandi Carlile's all female headlining set, as well as her own sense of purpose in occupying and owning space in what is currently an overwhelmingly white genre. We dive into the history of Newport and why the insistence racial equality and diversity of its lineups was an especially personal mission of George Wein's - one that he carried to New Orleans when creating Jazz Fest alongside the parents of Preservation Hall's Ben Jaffe. and how that festival in turn helped to integrate New Orleans. And Colin Meloy and Judy Collins join us to talk about folk music's history as a tool for organizing and empowering the disenfranchised, especially through the voice of Pete Seeger. The fight continues to surround hate and force it to surrender. Festival Circuit: Newport Folk is presented by Osiris Media, and hosted by Carmel Holt. It is co-written, co-produced and edited by Carmel and Julian Booker, who is also the series' audio engineer. Production assistance from Zach Brogan. Executive producers are RJ Bee and Christina Collins. Show Logo and art by Mark Dowd.  The series theme music is "Ruminations Pt. 3 (Afternoon Haze)" by Steven Warwick. Thanks to Billy Glassner of the Newport Festivals Foundation for providing archival audio. Additional archival audio provided by the Alan Lomax Collection at the American Folklife Center, Library of Congress, courtesy of the Association for Cultural Equity. And many thanks to our folk family guests Amythyst Kiah, George Wein, Ben Jaffe, Bob Boilen, Leyla McCalla, Rhiannon Giddens, Allison Russell, Yola, Colin Meloy, Judy Collins, Martin Anderson, Phil and Brad Cook, Jay Sweet, Holly Laessig, Jess Wolfe, Brittany Howard, Brian Lima and Allison Pangakis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It was truly incredible and just marked an amazing moment for a group of four black women to be part of that legendary festival with the message that we were bringing, full on confronting the origins of white supremacy, and to be able to talk about that and be able to use music to disarm

0:57.0

people to really try to start that process of healing all around for all of us. It was really special.

1:04.3

That's Amethis Kea, who performed at Newport in 2019 as part of our native daughters,

1:09.1

with Rianan Giddens, Alison Russell, and Lela Macalla.

1:12.4

Their music addresses America's history of racism and misogyny, with songs that are at once

1:17.9

uplifting and celebratory, tragic, and painful. Their mission of spreading the perspectives of

1:23.5

black women from the time of slavery through the present, found a passionately engaged audience

1:28.8

at Newport. This is part of a long lineage of artists performing songs of protest and calls for

1:34.1

social justice and a founding principle of Newport's organizers to fight for and embody a more

1:40.3

inclusive and equitable world for us all. I'm Carmel Holt. Today, we explore how Newport

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has since its beginning been a space where artists, organizers, and fans have gathered to create

1:53.4

and experience a space where intolerance, injustice, and hate give way to love, mutual respect,

2:00.2

and equality. We'll hear from members of the folk

2:02.4

family about how, at its outset, the fierce commitment to racial equality and the platform for

2:08.2

so-called radical ideals of Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie laid the groundwork for its decades-long

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