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Female spies who forged the CIA

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4.34.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Many of the agents who played a crucial role in establishing the organisation now known as the Central Intelligence Agency – or CIA – were women. And yet, in the early days of the agency in post-WW2 America, they had to fight hard for career progression, status and recognition. Speaking with Elinor Evans, Nathalia Holt shares the lives of four women who undertook life-threatening missions and harnessed crucial intelligence in the early days of the agency. (Ad) Nathalia Holt is the author of Wise Gals: The Spies Who Built the CIA and Changed the Future of Espionage (Icon Books, 2023). Buy it now from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wise-Gals-Changed-Future-Espionage/dp/1785789589/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C67LDSXDE5DV&keywords=nathalia+holt&qid=1674218071&s=books&sprefix=nathalia+holt%2Cstripbooks%2C72&sr=1-1&tag=bbchistory045-21&ascsubtag=historyextra-social-histboty Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:05.0

Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

1:11.7

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History revealed.

1:23.7

Many of the agents who played a crucial role in establishing the Central Intelligence Agency,

1:30.7

or CIA, were women. And yet in the early days of the agency in post-World War II America,

1:38.2

they had to fight hard for progression, status and recognition. Nathalia Holt's new book, Wise Gals,

1:43.6

introduces us to four women so-called by their male colleagues because of their sharp sense of humor and even

1:45.2

quicker intelligence. She joined Eleanor Evans to share stories of their lives, careers and life-threatening

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