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Many of you may have seen the podcast we did with Ghost, the bodybuilder,

and how he was a younger of Asian hits.

And when he was a young person on the streets of Reading, how he clicked up with some older female

gangsters. We've got some of that group in the house today, Fran. You may also have seen our

interview with Tawana about the female prison experience. Fran was also in the same prison as Tawana,

as well, so a bit of overlap with two of our podcast guests. I'll put those stories down there

in the description box if you want to check them out. And all the Fran stuff will be down there,

and Jen stuff will be down there as well. So huge thank you for coming on. Thank you.

Yeah, I mean Ghost has done tremendous, you know, he discovered the bodybuilding and

he was just naturally massive and he got out and he's going all over the world now. But you know,

from back when he was a young person. Yeah, I remember. I can't remember if he got out

before I went in. I can't remember how long he's been out now, but I remember seeing a picture of him

on my friend's Facebook and he was like that. And I was like, wow, he's huge now like massive.

Yeah, obviously he wasn't like a tiny lad like back in the day, but he was nothing like that.

So yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, so how did you meet him? So I was in the, he mentioned, I've listened

to obviously his interview and he mentioned about some female drug dealers and I was one of that

group. I was in that group I think before he sort of come along. I knew some of the lads that he

become friends with and stuff like that. So yeah, so that's how I got to know him.

And you had a story about one of his co-offendants. Oh, yeah. So yeah, just they were just on

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