This is CBS, I am the world.

I'm John Nash, the federal government, the vast purchasing power of the federal government

directed these last decades for software.

Software is the future.

Not only for AI, but for all of us daily workers on a max and PCs we depend upon the software.

So does the federal government.

I welcome Francis Rose, the host of FedGov today, both the podcast and the TV show on Channel

7 and in DC every Sunday morning at 10.30 a.m.

We're now dealing with a conversation that Francis had with Matthew Cornelius.

Matthew is introducing us to the world of software and the federal government, which he calls

a vampire squid.

Well, parts of it in any event.

Francis is impossible to go past his article and not say what's going, what's happening

in the federal government?

Who is or what is or what do we make of vampire squid in software?

Good evening to you.

Good evening, John.

Thanks for having me on the program.

Well, what is particularly useful from my conversation with Matt is that he has experienced

in both the executive branch and the office of management budget as a special advisor to

the chief information officer in the United States.

And as a staff member to Senator Gary Peters, who's one of the co-sponsors of this legislation.

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