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Federal agencies are reeling from Trump administration cuts to government

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🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Whether a "chainsaw," per Elon Musk, or "scalpel," as President Trump has said — the Trump administration is making deep cuts to the federal government within its first 100 days.

And Trump has appointed personal allies with little experience in government to key cabinet positions.

For the civil servants working to enact the missions of these government agencies, that's often meant another word: "chaos."

NPR correspondents Tom Bowman, Michele Kelemen and Selena Simmons-Duffin recap what they are hearing from federal workers at the Departments of Defense, State, and Health and Human Services.

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0:00.0

There are a lot of metaphors floating around the Trump administration trying to capture its approach to reshaping the federal government.

0:08.9

Here's one from Elon Musk.

0:10.7

This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy.

0:15.1

Mersehersaw!

0:16.4

Musk wielded, said chainsaw, on stage at the conservative political action conference.

0:22.3

Through the Doge initiative, Musk has overseen many of the massive cuts to federal agencies so far.

0:29.4

President Trump himself has been using different metaphors.

0:33.0

We say the scalpel rather than the hatchet, he said, on social media, or, as he put it, in the Oval

0:39.9

office last month.

0:41.4

I don't want to see a big cut where a lot of good people are cut.

0:45.1

I want the cabinet members to keep the good people and the people that aren't doing a good

0:49.3

job that are unreliable, don't show up to work, etc.

0:52.8

Those people can be cut.

0:54.2

So far, the federal job cuts have affected a lot of people who were doing important work.

0:59.7

People like Scott Laney, who worked on the Coal Workers Health Surveillance Program, run by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health in Morgantown, West Virginia.

1:09.9

We are the nation's doctors for coal miners when it comes to their lung health.

1:14.8

By law, the program gave every minor in the country access to care for free.

1:21.2

It conducted mobile x-ray screenings for black lung disease,

1:25.1

but staff for the operation was slashed and the program was shuttered.

1:29.5

It's going to have impacts on my neighbors.

1:32.6

It's going to be killing young men.

1:36.1

And that story will go untold.

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