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On The Tape

Fear is the Market Killer with Gavin Baker of Atreides Management

On The Tape

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4.6757 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2022

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Guy, Dan, and Danny discuss what’s priced into the markets (4:31), the threat of stagflation (9:13), the flattening yield curve (17:15), and revenge of the meme stocks (23:26). Later, Dan and Guy sit down with Gavin Baker, Managing Partner & Chief Investment Officer at Atreides Management, and talk about inflation (34:08), the possibility of a recession (45:54), crypto acting as a store of value in the Russia-Ukraine war (52:41), tech valuations (56:26), the push and pull of private vs. public markets (1:07:42), Gavin’s recommendations for podcasts to listen to, people to follow and books to read (1:19:28).  Listen to Gavin Baker on “Invest Like the Best”  Disclaimer:  This podcast is for informational purposes only. All opinions expressed by Dan Nathan, Guy Adami, Danny Moses, and other participants are solely their own opinions and should not be relied upon for specific investment decisions. Clients of firms associated with certain participants may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. ---- See what adding futures can do for you at cmegroup.com/onthetape.  ---- Shoot us an email at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OnTheTapePod. We’re on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow Danny Moses @DMoses34 on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

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0:00.0

In 1987, I was out of college, but one of my favorite bands of all time, and Danny, this

0:05.1

will resonate with you.

0:07.3

It would be a band that came out of the great state of Georgia, Athens, Georgia, by the way,

0:12.0

that would, of course, be R-E-M.

0:14.2

And in 1987, Danny, they released Document.

0:17.9

And on that album were a number of different songs, the one I love, beautiful song,

0:21.8

by the way, but one of the songs was, it's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

0:28.1

And I got to tell you, folks, we'll put this up on the Risk Reversal website.

0:32.6

You look at the lyrics of that song, and it's almost like those MFers had crystal balls or something because

0:38.3

everything in that song is lining up with what's going on right now. The world is screwed

0:43.4

without question. But in terms of the market, Danny Moses, everything's beautiful. I feel

0:48.6

fine. What could possibly go wrong here? Yeah, nice bounce off the lows. S&P up 8% off the lows. Nasdaq, I think,

0:56.0

as we speak right now, up 12% off the lows. Just a deep breath. Certainly, it's rallied more than

1:01.5

I would have thought for sure. Like we talked about before, it's not keeping up with inflation,

1:06.3

the markets. Maybe it's starting to catch up to inflation. This is why we keep saying cash is not a great place to

1:11.5

be. But a little shocked at where this thing has gone. Maybe people were caught a little bit off sides.

1:15.9

I do think there's some other stuff going on here with quarter end books. I think there's a lot

1:20.1

of redemptions happening in hedge funds that they have to raise cash. I think that sometimes can mean

1:24.8

short covering as much as it does long selling from time to time.

1:27.8

So I think as books come down, we're seeing a little bit.

1:30.2

We're going to talk about some of this meme stock revenge that we're seeing that may look like that.

1:34.2

But things aren't getting better in my opinion.

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