You've seen her on the ground in Minnesota during the BLM riots, in New York and D.C. during Antifa, and on the border, facing the cartels and child traffickers head on. Now, she's here with you. I'm here with Peter McElvena from Across the Pond, host of

Hearts of Oak and Chief of Staff for Lord Pearson. And we have so much to talk about today.

Thanks you so much, Peter, for being on the show. Great to be with you, Sarah. Thank you so much.

I know. I'm so excited to get you on my Rumor's Scandal or Truth, and I'm going to be even more excited to get you on my rumor, scandal, or truth, and I'm going to be

even more excited to get you on my long format, my podcast, the Sarah Carter Show. But right now,

for those of you who don't know who Peter is, he is the host of Hearts of Oak. It was launched

in February 2020 in Westminster, London, and was the brainchild of you and Alan Craig, right, Peter?

Yep. Two of us together. That's pretty incredible. Tell me what made you guys do that. What made you

decide this is it? We've got to get this free speech alliance out. We've got to work on focusing on free speech.

What was the, I guess, what was the breaking point for both of you? Well, it was UKIP. We've got to work on focusing on free speech. What was the, I guess,

what was the breaking point for both of you? Well, it was UKIP. We had both been in UKIP. I've been

in UKIP five years, which was the Brexit party, Nigel Farage's party. I ran our campaign. It was

national campaign manager in 2019. And whenever we got Brexit, it was what do you do next? And a lot of us came together

and started a free speech alliance. We thought it would be an educational organization, but two weeks

later we went into lockdown. So you couldn't leave your front door. So we started doing media.

So after never having done an interview of my life, zero interest in media. We've now, well, 750-odd interviews

with about 230 different guests, and it's been phenomenal, connect with people all over the

world, speaking truth and trying to protect free speech, which is under attack not only in the US,

but in the UK, all across Europe, wherever you are, it is under attack not only in the US, but in the UK, all across Europe,

wherever you are, it is under attack. So everything is fitted under that umbrella of free speech.

Anything should be up for conversation for grabs. And truth will always have its way and will

shine light on whatever is not true.

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