From 38.

I'm excited to be having a conversation with someone.

When they have that revelation,

like the air...

...it's making sure.

But maybe looking at this case, it could be an interesting process.

Okay.

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. The moment the show Girls went on the air five years ago, it became immediately part of the zeitgeis, the kind of show that's talked about

as much as it's actually watched. Girls told the story of a group of 20-somethings struggling with

adulthood. And even for HBO, it had a lot of nudity, a lot of uncomfortable sex scenes and people

making bad choices of all kinds. Last month, the final episode aired.

Just about a year ago, when filming for this last season

had just gotten underway, Lena Dunham joined me in the studio.

It was May of 2016, and as it happened, it was a pretty big day.

So, Lena, in about two hours,

you're going to be at your birthday party, celebrating your 30th birthday.

And so what we did is we brought into the studio a big giant bottle of champagne. Let's see if we can uncork it. Oh, my God. And make the appropriate sound. There it is. Yay.

Happy birthday.

Thank you, David.

This means a lot.

I've known you now for four birthdays. That's right. Just so you guys at home can see, it's a bottle of Manashevitz that he's poured for me. That is not true. Now, turning 30 is an event in anyone's life, but for Lena Dunham, having created a show called Girls, 30 seemed like it might pose a career issue, along with the usual angst.

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