This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole, and Todd Michaels.

Let's go to another case.

Mickey Steins wasn't a stranger who wandered into that courthouse.

He was the sheriff.

He served as Kevin Mullen's bailiff for years before that.

These two men knew each other, worked together, ate lunch together, operated in the same

small town power structure where everybody knows everybody together.

And that's exactly what makes this case so unsettling.

The threat didn't come from outside.

It came from inside from someone who had access, trust, and a badge, someone who could walk

into a judge's chambers

in the middle of the day without raising a single alarm.

We're going to dig into some of the newer developments

in this Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent,

former chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program here with us.

Let's talk about this.

Steins, he walked into that courthouse as that sitting sheriff.

He had complete access.

Nobody stopped him.

Nobody questioned him.

What makes insider threats like this so dangerous and so hard to detect before it's too late,

even though, even though there was warning.

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