This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Brewski and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reid.

I'm, I mean, and I'm not counting out Karen Reid's defense because they are good.

They've just been, I think they got dealt a horrible hand this time because of everything that Karen did.

It's like they're playing blackjack and she went and brought Uno cards into the game.

Like, what the hell is this?

Oh, I play Uno.

I got, I had, I had five drinks, but I put a shot in every other one.

And I brought Uno cards to mix in with a deck.

Isn't this great?

Like, what the hell?

Peggy O'Keefe, she made her statements

this recently in court. And I guess what I was kind of taken aback by, and I didn't know the

dynamics of the relationships here, but she, I mean, she, her son had been with Karen Reed for two years,

and her reaction is like, why is she here? That's cold. I mean, but probably for a reason. I'm not

faulting Peggy O'Keefe, but I'm like, that's an interesting take, because if I was with someone

for two years and, you you know they died tragically

you know and the family's not you know thinking it's you yet you'd think you know oh you know

they'd be right there with the family morning but it was more like what is that bitch here for

well it was and and I tell you there's something to be said for a mother's intuition.

Yeah.

And women, I will say, women know women.

It takes me about 10 seconds, maybe a little bit longer, a few minutes for the most part to get a read on somebody.

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