For this week on the perfect scam, so you lift the phone to your ear and you hear nothing.

It was dead silence. I'm walking back to my family room to sit down and there's nothing.

He had been on the line, you know, advising me, telling me and doing all these details,

take this, do it this way.

I'm, you know, waiting for him to give me some more details and there's nothing. He's gone.

Welcome back to the perfect scam. I'm your host Bob Sullivan. Today's story includes some pretty wild emotional

swings, a grandmother who's arrested with $180,000. Another grandmother who, I'm sure you'll soon agree, is a hero.

And to dogged FBI Agent who, in addition to being pretty good at catching criminals, was once a contestant on the reality TV show Survivor.

But let's start with the hero.

I am Susan Donald and I am in San Diego, California.

And how long have you lived there?

Oh, I was born in San Diego.

I, when me the original owner of the home that I live in.

So you must really like San Diego?

I love San Diego.

Yeah, tell me why?

Oh, the weather, of course, the access to anything within 15 minutes, the beaches, the mountains.

We have everything very close too.

We have theater, we have the best of restaurants.

Susan's husband died three years ago,

and she was just getting used to the idea of living alone

when she had to deal with the isolation of COVID.

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