Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm your host, Sheila Kapadia here today, joined by Anthony DeBundo. We are planting our flags on our favorite over-under-wind totals for the 2025 NFL season. So you know DeBundo, or as I call him, you know, affectionately, Tony Buns from the Ringer gambling show. He talks baseball with me

on the Ringer's Philly Special. He writes about soccer. He writes about tennis, a true sports

Renaissance man. What do we call this? The Dubundo Equinox, right? All the sports you love

happening at the same time in the next few weeks here. Yes, this is truly like the two or three

best weeks of the year. U.S. Open, baseball and full swing, Philly's independent race, as we talked about

yesterday. And I'm excited because we are, what, 10, eight, nine days away from the return of

NFL football. So yes, the Dubundo Equinox, September and October are my favorite two sports

months of the year for that reason. And I'm excited to be doing this because we have only done

baseball before. So now we're in your realm doing NFL. I can't wait to get into win totals,

especially because Shields trying to defend his stellar record on picks against the spread

from last season. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that goes. But yes, we usually talk NFL on the side, but our first time doing it on the mic. So this is going to be a lot of fun. We each pick three teams. We haven't told each other who they're going to be. And we're going to talk about why we are confident, neither the overs or the under. So let's take a quick break. We come back and we get

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All right, we're back on the ringer and have all show. Was this a hard exercise,

DeBondo? Is it like, you know, I have more than three? Was it like it's hard getting to three?

How do you feel about your view of the league going into the season? So I have bet seven so far.

Okay. I would say on average, I'm around eight or nine. So there have bet seven so far. Okay. I would say on average I'm around eight or nine.

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