Now part two of our conversation with Dr Anthony Fauchy.

Last night we discussed his experience leading the country through two of the greatest public health crises of our time, HIV AIDS and COVID-19. Tonight, more on his fraught relationship

with former President Trump, the partisan attacks he faced

that turned into real threats,

and how he views his own legacy

after a nearly six decade career.

All of it captured and his new memoir,

On Call, a doctor's journey in public service.

What was your relationship behind the scenes with President Trump like?

Well, you know, I described it in some detail in the book.

It was really, it was complicated because when we first met, we had a real good rapport with us.

You know, I describe it, maybe it was sort of, you know, a guy raised in Queens and a guy raised in Brooklyn.

We had that similar New York swagger whatever you want to call it that we related to each

other and in the beginning he actually listened to what we were saying and went along

with it but when it became clear that the virus was was not going to

going to disappear and it was not going to disappear and it was not going to

peak in February and go away in March and April the way the flu does and as we got into the season of preparing for the election

then we started to go separately because that's when I had a contradicting which

was painful for me to do that you know the the people in the

White House staff thought I was doing that because I wanted to get it not at all it was not

comfortable for me to do that but that's when it went from hey we're

buddy buddies to you know this guy doesn't know what he's talking about he's

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