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🗓️ 28 August 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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A Wisconsin judge sentences a husband and father to twice the amount of time recommended after he duped authorities and his family into believing he drowned while kayaking at a lake, all so he could make a new life overseas with an Eastern European woman. Amy and T.J. go over the bizarre, yet fascinating details of the story and how authorities were finally able to track him down and pay for his crime.
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0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
0:05.6 | Hey there, folks. It is August the 28th, and a man who had been married 22 years had three kids at home. |
0:14.7 | Went fishing. Went missing. Presumed dead. Well, he turned up a couple months later and now he has been sentenced to jail time for faking his own death. |
0:27.1 | And with that welcome to this Amy and T.J. presents. |
0:31.3 | Robs, this is a very devastating, a heartbreaking story when you hear about what he did. Some of the details are as |
0:42.9 | ridiculous and comical for why he thought he was going to get away with this. Yeah, I mean, |
0:48.3 | to go to such lengths when you're a father of three and a husband, okay, I get it. People get divorced every day. It's tough, |
0:57.2 | it's hard, it's messy, it's expensive. But my God, why would the only other way out of a |
1:05.3 | relationship, which would be death, I guess, why would that be the better option? You somehow think it's better that your kids |
1:14.5 | think you're dead, that your community thinks you're dead rather than you fell in love with another |
1:20.4 | woman? That's pretty serious. I can't imagine that headspace to feel that trapped, that your only way out is faking your death. |
1:31.8 | I thought about that too, and I know no one would want to be sympathetic to this guy, but how? |
1:37.5 | Short of mental illness, short of something not right up there, because you feel so in such despair that you thought this was a |
1:46.4 | better option and the story we're talking about a lot of you all may remember from last year a |
1:49.7 | kayaker his name is Ryan Borgwart he's 45 years old from Wisconsin and he went missing |
1:56.2 | but they found him a few months later and to your your point, Robes, he had run off. |
2:02.5 | You said that was a kind way to put it. |
2:03.8 | He had fallen in love with another woman. |
2:07.5 | I mean, love makes you do crazy things. |
2:15.7 | And whatever it was, the feeling he felt, it was intoxicating enough that this was all worth it somehow, some way in that moment. |
2:17.3 | Certainly now he regrets it. |
2:19.4 | He's said as much. But in the moment, |
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