Fat Loss First: How VO₂ Max, Ketones & Diet Unlock Lifelong Metabolic Fitness — Dr. Paul Laursen Recap

Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

Vanessa Spina

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Nutrition

4.5 • 758 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Today’s episode is a deep-dive recap of my mind-blowing conversation with Dr. Paul Laursen — one of the world’s top experts in exercise physiology, high-intensity interval training (HIIT), and fat-adapted performance.

If you’ve ever wondered:

Why you feel better fat-fueled than carb-loaded
How diet actually drives fat loss more than training
Why ketones might be more than a fuel — and actually a proxy for VO₂ max
How to optimize your metabolic flexibility using HIIT and protein-forward nutrition

…this episode will change how you see your body composition journey — especially if you’ve been trying to out-exercise a poor diet.

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We break down:

Why diet beats exercise for fat loss — results from Dr. Laursen’s VLCHF vs. HIIT study
Fat-adaptation as a proxy for VO₂ max and why that matters for metabolic fitness & longevity
How metabolic flexibility fuels both performance and brain health
Why animal protein quality is a game-changer for recovery, energy, and lean mass
The neuroprotective power of ketones for focus, resilience, and endurance
How to train the brain first, body second for performance
Why your body rebuilds itself every 6 months — and how to upgrade the raw materials

💡 Dr. Laursen’s 6 Step Body Recomposition Blueprint:

Start with a high-protein, low-carb diet built on quality animal protein
Use HIIT strategically — not excessively
Track your own responses with CGMs and breath ketones
Get fat-adapted for longevity, mental clarity, and metabolic resilience
Support your brain — the true driver of performance

Whether you’re an athlete or simply chasing better metabolic health, this episode delivers the science and strategy to help you get leaner, stronger, and more metabolically fit.

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🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Optimal Protein Podcast. I'm Vanessa Spina. Hello, my friends, and welcome back to the Optimal Protein
0:08.2	podcast. I'm your host, Vanessa, and I am so excited because today we're diving into a full recap of
0:15.1	this week's absolutely mind-blowing interview with Dr. Paul Larson, one of the most respected names in exercise physiology
0:23.4	and the science of fat-adapted performance. If you have ever wondered why you feel better being
0:31.3	fat-fueled than carb-loaded, how diet actually drives fat loss more than training, why ketones might be more than just a fuel,
0:41.3	and actually could be a proxy for VO2 Max, the newest longevity marker, or how to optimize
0:49.7	your own metabolic flexibility using hit and protein forward nutrition. This episode is going to
0:57.6	change how you see your body composition journey, especially if you've ever felt stuck trying to
1:04.0	out exercise a poor diet. This episode is going to completely blow your mind in terms of
1:10.7	how many amazing insights, actionable
1:13.7	takeaways, and valuable information that we gleaned from this interview with Dr. Paul
1:19.4	Larson. And I can't wait to recap all the juicy takeaways with you all in this episode.
1:25.5	We're going to jump right in after this quick break.
1:29.5	Friends, I want to tell you about a tool that I have been using very consistently on my face
1:35.1	and seeing real results. And that is my red light therapy mask. When I am using it the most
1:41.4	consistently, I really see a difference in fine lines and in the smoothness
1:47.0	and appearance of my skin, even how hydrated it looks. It really is amazing. And I absolutely love
1:53.2	using the red light mask because I can just put it on while I'm doing other activities, whether
1:59.0	it's watching a show, reading a book, even interacting
2:01.9	with my kids, I can have my hands free, which I don't always have time in the day to sit in front
2:08.5	of a red light therapy panel, which I also love to do. But when it doesn't work out, I can still
2:14.4	be consistent with my goals. And that's really when you see a difference is when you are
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