But one of the things that's really crystallized for me is I really I'm here for the

fattest of the fat like I'm here for the like the stereotypical image that people have in

their mind of like the person who's so fat they have to be hoisted out of their bed

by the firefighters and by the crane.

Like that's the fat person I'm fadding for.

Like that fat person still deserve the same rights

and the same dignity as all the other fat people

and all the non-fat people in the world.

It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human.

Welcome to the Made of Human podcast.

This is Sophie Hagen. I'm your host and this is a podcast in which I speak to

just incredible people about how to do life. Initially I wanted to find out

yeah how to do life and then I very quickly realized that no one actually knows how to do it.

And in this episode I will be speaking to Cat Pause.

She's here for a second time,

because she was only in Europe for about six months

and then she goes back to New Zealand.

So I wanted to get her in while she's

here because she's just incredible and quite like a hero a hero of mine I'm

gonna apologize for I guess this entire episode because this whole thing is recorded as I'm still in Denmark which I have been

Since Christmas so I've been thinking and speaking in Danish for about three weeks now and I can like it's affecting me so I know my accent is probably weirder than it usually is and I tend to forget words and it's the same when I did the podcast with cat

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