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Welcome to Dress, the history of fashion, a podcast that explores the who, what, win, of why we wear.

We are fashion historians and your host, Cassidy Zachary.

And April Callahan.

Dress listeners, I hope that you will join me today in my excitement as we discuss not one but two of my all-time favorite topics, fashion, of course, and also contemporary art.

Some of you might recall that I have mentioned in the past on the show that before I became a fashion historian, I was actually a contemporary art galleries for many years.

So the fact that we get to discuss today, two of my deepest interests, well, it gives me lots of joy.

Yeah, and today we are so pleased to be joined by Alexandra Schwartz, the guest curator of the exhibition, Garmenting Costume as Contemporary Art, which is currently on view at the Museum of Art and Design in New York City.

And this exhibition features the work of nearly three dozen contemporary artists who have used clothing and fashion as a vehicle to explore broader social issues.

And April, as you know, several of these artists have come up on dress in the past, including Yinka Shonabare and Mary Sabande.

And some of our listeners might also be familiar with the incredible work of Nick Cave and his wonderfully weird sound suits.

They're so fun.

And then other artists, you know, we might be learning about for the first time.

And that is why we are so pleased to welcome Alexandra to the show to introduce us to their work.

Alexandra is a New York-based art historian and agent professor at FIT. Alexandra, welcome to trust.

Alexandra, we are delighted to have you join us on dress today. Welcome.

I'm delighted to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

Yes, yes, yes. And of course, we are here today to talk about your exhibition, Garmenting, which is up at the Museum of Art and Design in New York City right now.

And the title of the exhibition, Garmenting, you point out has a very specific meaning in the context of art.

So can you tell us a little bit about this term and also the historic lineage of Garmenting, which you so wonderfully detail at the very beginning of the exhibition catalog?

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