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FAR, FAR AWAY: 3/4: The Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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FAR, FAR AWAY: 3/4: The Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

https://www.amazon.com/Next-500-Years-Engineering-Worlds/dp/0262044404


An argument that we have a moral duty to explore other planets and solar systems—because human life on Earth has an expiration date.

Inevitably, life on Earth will come to an end, whether by climate disaster, cataclysmic war, or the death of the sun in a few billion years. To avoid extinction, we will have to find a new home planet, perhaps even a new solar system, to inhabit. In this provocative and fascinating book, Christopher Mason argues that we have a moral duty to do just that. As the only species aware that life on Earth has an expiration date, we have a responsibility to act as the shepherd of life-forms—not only for our species but for all species on which we depend and for those still to come (by accidental or designed evolution). Mason argues that the same capacity for ingenuity that has enabled us to build rockets and land on other planets can be applied to redesigning biology so that we can sustainably inhabit those planets. And he lays out a 500-year plan for undertaking the massively ambitious project of reengineering human genetics for life on other worlds.

As they are today, our frail human bodies could never survive travel to another habitable planet. Mason describes the toll that long-term space travel took on the astronaut Scott Kelly, who returned from a year on the International Space Station with changes to his blood, bones, and genes. Mason proposes a ten-phase, 500-year program that would engineer the genome so that humans can tolerate the extreme environments of outer space—with the ultimate goal of achieving human settlement of new solar systems. He lays out a roadmap of which solar systems to visit first, and merges biotechnology, philosophy, and genetics to offer an unparalleled vision of the universe to come.

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This is a CVS, I in the world. I'm John Bachelor. The book is The

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Next 500 Years Engineering Life to reach new worlds. Dr. Christopher Mason, geneticists, computational biologists,

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principal investigator and co-investigator with NASA

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and professor at Wild Cornell Medicine.

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All of that to get to the word engineering. It's a wonderful word.

0:25.2

We've talked about editing DNA, but now we're talking about a cell that's alive and

0:31.0

what is to be done with that cell.

0:33.0

Chris, if I understand and I quickly got lost,

0:36.0

we're already in this process of taking cells

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and putting them to work in some fashion.

0:43.0

What is important is we're doing this for space.

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What is it that we need to do with our cells to make them appropriate?

0:51.0

We've talked about adjusting them for radiation. What else can we adjust

0:55.9

them for?

0:58.4

We can do a lot of other tweaks and modifications to ourselves.

1:02.5

So we've, you know, the biggest first are just to survive, right?

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So once you address that at a tissue level, you know,

1:08.3

in a developmental level, you've made it to out in this space and then you get to a

1:12.1

planet that maybe has only methane or

1:14.1

only other strange you know atoms or even elements that you can use for your

1:19.0

biology what if we could take lessons from other creatures so So for example, I describe ways we can modify T cells

1:25.2

to make the immune system even more precise,

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