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FAR, FAR AWAY: 2/4 T:he Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 8 minutes

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FAR, FAR AWAY: 2/4 T:he Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

https://www.amazon.com/Next-500-Years-Engineering-Worlds/dp/0262044404


An argument that we have a moral duty to explore other planets and solar systems—because human life on Earth has an expiration date.

Inevitably, life on Earth will come to an end, whether by climate disaster, cataclysmic war, or the death of the sun in a few billion years. To avoid extinction, we will have to find a new home planet, perhaps even a new solar system, to inhabit. In this provocative and fascinating book, Christopher Mason argues that we have a moral duty to do just that. As the only species aware that life on Earth has an expiration date, we have a responsibility to act as the shepherd of life-forms—not only for our species but for all species on which we depend and for those still to come (by accidental or designed evolution). Mason argues that the same capacity for ingenuity that has enabled us to build rockets and land on other planets can be applied to redesigning biology so that we can sustainably inhabit those planets. And he lays out a 500-year plan for undertaking the massively ambitious project of reengineering human genetics for life on other worlds.

As they are today, our frail human bodies could never survive travel to another habitable planet. Mason describes the toll that long-term space travel took on the astronaut Scott Kelly, who returned from a year on the International Space Station with changes to his blood, bones, and genes. Mason proposes a ten-phase, 500-year program that would engineer the genome so that humans can tolerate the extreme environments of outer space—with the ultimate goal of achieving human settlement of new solar systems. He lays out a roadmap of which solar systems to visit first, and merges biotechnology, philosophy, and genetics to offer an unparalleled vision of the universe to come.

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This is a CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor with Dr. Christopher Mason of the

0:09.6

Wild Cornell Medicine School. He's a professor, he's also a geneticist and a computational biologist, and an author.

0:18.0

The book is The next 500 years engineering life to reach new worlds.

0:22.0

We've started with the generational

0:24.0

ship in the 23rd century. Way back here in the beginning of the 21st century

0:28.1

what Chris does with his colleagues routinely is they edit DNA and Chris has given me permission to use the

0:36.4

metaphor edit like a document like I pull up word document and cut and paste.

0:41.8

Chris what is CRISPR?

0:44.0

What does it do?

0:45.0

Yeah, I think many in your audience

0:48.0

has probably heard of CRISPR, read about it,

0:51.0

and CRISPR, it stands for a clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeats.

0:57.4

And that's a big mouthful, but what it really is is basically a bacterial immune system,

1:02.4

it's kind of like a system that keeps track

1:04.8

of what viruses have bacteria encountered

1:06.9

and then remembers them.

1:08.0

Part of the process is cutting DNA

1:10.6

and embedding DNA and replacing it to remember viruses that a bacteria has seen.

1:15.0

And this has been used by many people including Jennifer Dowdna and

1:20.0

Chapprentier, the people who just won the Nobel Prize last year, to discover it really a couple decades ago,

1:25.8

but then also to think, how do we use this in human cells or perfect the system, including

1:30.7

work by those like Feng Jing, it basically is these kind of these immune

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