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FAR, FAR AWAY: 1/4 T:he Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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FAR, FAR AWAY: 1/4 T:he Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds, by Christopher E. Mason.

https://www.amazon.com/Next-500-Years-Engineering-Worlds/dp/0262044404


An argument that we have a moral duty to explore other planets and solar systems—because human life on Earth has an expiration date.

Inevitably, life on Earth will come to an end, whether by climate disaster, cataclysmic war, or the death of the sun in a few billion years. To avoid extinction, we will have to find a new home planet, perhaps even a new solar system, to inhabit. In this provocative and fascinating book, Christopher Mason argues that we have a moral duty to do just that. As the only species aware that life on Earth has an expiration date, we have a responsibility to act as the shepherd of life-forms—not only for our species but for all species on which we depend and for those still to come (by accidental or designed evolution). Mason argues that the same capacity for ingenuity that has enabled us to build rockets and land on other planets can be applied to redesigning biology so that we can sustainably inhabit those planets. And he lays out a 500-year plan for undertaking the massively ambitious project of reengineering human genetics for life on other worlds.

As they are today, our frail human bodies could never survive travel to another habitable planet. Mason describes the toll that long-term space travel took on the astronaut Scott Kelly, who returned from a year on the International Space Station with changes to his blood, bones, and genes. Mason proposes a ten-phase, 500-year program that would engineer the genome so that humans can tolerate the extreme environments of outer space—with the ultimate goal of achieving human settlement of new solar systems. He lays out a roadmap of which solar systems to visit first, and merges biotechnology, philosophy, and genetics to offer an unparalleled vision of the universe to come.

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This is CBS I on the World with John Bachelor.

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This is CBS I on the World with John Bachelor.

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Here's John Bachelor.

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This is CBS I in the world. I'm John Bachelor. This is CBS, I in the world.

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I'm John Bachelor.

0:14.8

I welcome Christopher Mason, geneticist,

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computational biologist, and he is often

0:21.4

a principal investigator and co-investigator for NASA but right now he's

0:25.9

a professor at Wild Cornell Medicine and he's going to guide us to the next 500 years.

0:32.4

That is the title of his new book,

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subtitle Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds.

0:38.0

Dr. Mason, Christopher, congratulations and good evening to you.

0:42.0

I want you immediately to take us to the 23rd century

0:46.8

The generation ships that you propose what is a generation ship and what are the challenges for the human beings and their

0:55.2

colleagues on board that ship as it heads for a new son. Good evening to you.

0:59.9

Good evening and thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. The

1:03.9

generation ship is really a culmination of both technological and design and

1:09.6

aerospace engineering that will let us get to a point where we can have a whole

1:14.3

spacecraft that sends that is launched towards another star that we've identified that

1:18.4

has a habitable planet that eventually that people will get there and begin to explore and have humans exist around the light of a second sun.

1:27.0

And to do this, I describe in the book that what this is is a generation ship meaning multiple generations live and die on the same spacecraft,

1:34.8

which raises some pretty large ethical questions, but I also address that in the book.

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