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This Jungian Life Podcast

FANTASY: Do We Have Fantasies or Do They Have Us?

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Jungian, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Psychology, Dreams, Jung, Relationships, Selfhelp, Society & Culture, Psychoanalysis

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Is fantasizing helpful or harmful?

Fantasy is the process of engagement with unconscious processes, from the depths of the mythic unconscious to the make-believe worlds of online gaming. In passive fantasy we receive products of the unconscious as charged internal images: nighttime dreams, trance states and visions. Passive fantasy transgresses natural law, the limitations of waking life, and cultural restrictions, for in the subterranean realms of psychic experience all is permitted.

Active fantasy allows us to interact with the unconscious and shape our experiences. It lives next door to ideas, reverie, play, intuition, and creativity. Passive or active, fantasy can call us into lives that are larger and more enlivened, or seduce us into escapism impedes adaptation to reality. Today we can consume fantasy, and it can be consuming. Jung’s collaborator, Marie-Louise von Franz said, “The great difficulty is to save the fantasy which is life-giving and cut away the childishness of the wish to realize it.”

Here’s the Dream We Analyze 

“I’m in a small underground room. Near the ceiling, in a shadowy corner, hangs a cocoon or nest. It looks like a felted mitten and contains sleeping baby bats. Frightened, I summon my husband and quietly point out the nest. He agrees that we should take care not to wake the baby bats—for even though they are tiny and blind, they are not vulnerable. I whisper the phrase “dangerous little experts.” We stand as still as we can in the dark. The next scene is outdoors and sunny. I’m in the middle of a street that is normally busy, but now empty. A snowy owl appears before me on the pavement. I again summon my husband, and as we admire the owl, five more snowies arrive. They grow until they stand about four feet tall, then begin hopping and spinning and flapping, almost like they’re performing a ceremonial Native American dance. I suspect they are children wearing feather costumes, but no, they really are owls. My husband and I are thrilled and honored. The street seems alive with magic.”

References

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Quoted: Marie Louise von Franz, Alchemy: An Introduction to the Symbolism and the Psychology
https://www.amazon.com/dp/091912304X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_wJCVFbH3X12EK

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0:00.0

Have you ever wondered what your dreams mean? Join us in DreamSchool at thisyunginlife.com and find out.

0:09.4

Jung wrote, dreams are a little hidden door in the innermost and most secret recesses of the soul.

0:15.5

DreamSchool is a unique, self-paced online program you can start at any time that unlocks access to your inner

0:23.6

world. Our 12-month program provides the support, knowledge, and guidance you need to reach within,

0:31.1

decipher your personal dream code, and harness it to optimize your life. By enrolling, you'll join an affirming community of fellow travelers,

0:40.8

each pursuing a unique quest.

0:43.6

And it's fun.

0:45.0

Join us on an adventure to wholeness and healing through understanding your dreams.

0:50.1

Go to thisyongi-in-life.com and click on Dream School.

0:54.5

You'll be taken to our secure checkout.

0:57.0

Once you join, you'll get immediate access to our first three modules.

1:01.7

You can get started right away.

1:04.0

We look forward to seeing you there.

1:08.5

Welcome to this Jungian life.

1:10.9

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

1:16.4

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation

1:19.9

that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

1:26.1

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia.

1:30.1

I'm Joseph Lee, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

1:35.1

I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, on Cape Cod.

1:50.4

This week, we decided that we wanted to talk about fantasy, which is a topic that I've been hoping we would be able to talk about for a while.

1:53.7

One of the things that's going to be a little bit difficult about circumambulating this topic

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