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Listener discretion is advised. The frustrating part about this case and the thing that really continues to bother me or to bother me as an investigator

is that I picked up the case. It obviously had a lot of moving parts. It was kind of convoluted.

There were theories that had been going around everything with the

Dylan Glass all the way up to to Chino to I've heard everything in the world as it

relates to Justin coming up missing.

But as you start to look at and interview the people that are involved,

there's certain things that made sense,

and then there's certain things that didn't.

I'll start with Dylan Glass and this was the frustration.

It was Blue's son, Dylan Glass, who first came forward with information about

being involved in the Gaines case. Glass is a self-professed gang member

who is now doing federal time on drug charges.

He could look at you straight in the face,

lie to you and not flinch in body languages,

80, 85% of communication.

So when a guy has the ability to

to actually mask his body language

and to lie straight through you,

that makes it very difficult to kind of figure out which way he's going and why.

Former Gwinnett County investigator Colonel Carl Sims intricately knows the Gaines case. He was lead investigator.

Though he didn't work the case until several years after Justin's

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