Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor,

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Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

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Welcome to another episode.

We just had one of Surviving the Survivor,

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almost forgot my glasses.

We just did an entire almost two hours on John Bonae Ramsey.

Tim Jansen, you think that case is ever getting solved?

It's been a long time, you know, sometimes it does.

How many years have been now, like 25 28 1996 going into 29th year god it's a long time it is a long time Joe Petuto are we ever

gonna find a suspect in that case well they found more one. They just haven't been the right one.

I don't know.

I mean, it's a good example of when the police grew up at the beginning, it's hard to

catch up and fix it.

Maybe somebody, I always hope that on their deathbeds, people will just confess and say, here's how I did it. Maybe somebody, I always hope that on their deathbeds, people will just confess and say,

here how I did it. I don't see why they don't do it then. If they believe in God, it's a good

thing. If they don't believe in God, what's the harm? If they did believe in God, they probably

wouldn't have murdered her. Well, that's true. Well, yeah. By the way, shout out to Wesley John Holmes.

He is in Ozzy living in Tokyo.

I never met him, but I consider him a friend, which is interesting.

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