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It is just like a relief and a freedom.

It's like I can get on with life.

I'm not registered with a gender clinic.

I don't have to be thinking about the next surgery.

Like dysphoria is not something that's constantly on my mind anymore. I just feel like I can

live. Amazing. Welcome to Doing It with me, Hannah Witten, where we talk all things, sex, relationships, dating and our bodies.

Hey everyone, welcome back to doing it. So this week I'm coming to you from another remote recording.

And this week my guests are Jamie and Shaba. Jamie and Shaba are in a relationship and

they make YouTube videos together about their relationship and LGBTQ plus issues. Jamie has documented

his transition on YouTube from starting testosterone to finally getting his gender recognition certificate,

which we talk about in this episode about how Jamie feels like throughout that process and

finally getting his GRC and his lower surgery that he feels like his transition is done.

We talk about what the cost of that transition was in terms of time and money in the UK and we talk about how

at the beginning of their relationship because Jamie and Shabba were best friends

pre Jamie coming out as trans and transitioning and the reaction that Shaba's

family had to that and how Shaba's family didn't see Jamie for the first like five years

of their relationship. We talk about making YouTube videos about their relationship and

transitioning, going through hardships together

in a relationship and does that bring you together or potentially like pull you apart?

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