Welcome to Nurture vs. Nurture, Ava and Quincy are school teachers who met on a basketball

team in college, had kids and up and left Baltimore to take jobs in China, Egypt, Myanmar and

Guatemala. Today, we'll learn about the surprises greeting a biracial family living abroad.

How a target store in Pennsylvania can be a highly meditative space, and why it's not

essential for parents to acquire fluency in each other's very distinct love languages.

Our untranslatable words today include a German term from Ornithology that explains the

combination of dread, restlessness and excitement, humans feel before embarking on a planned

trip, and a Japanese word that offers respect to the shopaholic.

Just a disclaimer, what you are about to listen to is not a professional counseling session.

Each episode is a one-time conversation, and the advice I offer does not constitute psychological

treatment or services substitute for professional diagnosis, intervention or behavioral healthcare.

In order to protect their privacy, our guests have been given pseudonyms and some personal

details have been changed. If you have concerns about your child's well-being or your own,

seek out guidance from a medical or mental health professional. Good places to start, your

child's pediatrician, the counseling staff at your child's school, and the American Psychological

Association's Comprehensive Guide to Finding Resources in your State, and now on to the fun.

In the mean time. We got this. We got this. We got this. We got this.

Hi, Dr. Mogel. Hi, Eva. I'm having so much fun looking at your wall there.

Uh, this is my virtual classroom I'm teaching from home to my students over in me and Mar, so

how to be creative a little bit, make it a little exciting for my students.

And Quincy, good morning. It's probably not morning wherever you are.

Early afternoon. Early afternoon, yep. Okay, so this is what I know and this is what I would

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