Summary
Eight years after Crimea was annexed, Vladimir Putin has given a speech to a packed stadium in Moscow, praising Russia’s soldiers in Ukraine.
Victoria, Gabriel and Vitaly speak to the BBC Ukrainian Service’s Anastasia Gribanova. War has caused the breakdown of her relationship with her pro-Russian parents in eastern Ukraine and with her cousin who’s fighting for the other side. She's in Lviv, which was targeted for the first time today and is also where Vitaly’s mum and aunt have just arrived.
And the BBC’s World Affairs Editor, John Simpson, gives us a special insight into the one of the latest rounds of diplomatic calls – this time between President Putin and Turkey's leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan – and what it suggests about Putin’s state of mind.
This episode of Ukrainecast was made by Daniel Wittenberg with Natalie Ktena, Alix Pickles, and Phil Marzouk. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The editor is Jonathan Aspinwall.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | Hello, it's 23 days since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. |
| 0:09.5 | And today, we're going to be getting quite deep into the issue of how some people in |
| 0:17.1 | Ukraine who have families in Russia or in Russian controlled areas of Ukraine are speaking |
| 0:22.2 | or not able to speak to each other because of this conflict. |
| 0:26.9 | Watching their own propaganda, a lot of anger on both sides, I should say, we're going |
| 0:31.9 | to be delving into this. But I want to play you a little clip and stick with me here because |
| 0:37.1 | this is going to sound a little bit left-field. But it's Arnold Schwarzenegger. And he recorded |
| 0:42.0 | this video and stuck it up online on social media. Which has now been viewed, by the way, |
| 0:47.3 | by how many? 25 million times. 25 million times. And he put out this video, it was directed |
| 0:54.2 | at Russian soldiers. Just have a little listen to a little bit what he said. |
| 1:00.9 | Let me tell you, when my father arrived in Leningrad, he was all pumped up on the lives of his |
| 1:07.0 | government. And when he left Leningrad, he was broken, physically and mentally. He lived the rest |
| 1:13.8 | of his life in pain, pain from a broken back, pain from the Schraubner that always reminded him |
| 1:19.6 | of these terrible years in pain from the guilt that he felt. Did the Russian soldiers |
| 1:26.2 | listen to this broadcast? You already know much of the truth that I've been speaking. |
| 1:31.8 | You've seen it with your own eyes. I don't want you to be broken like my father. |
| 1:38.8 | This is not the war, the defend Russia. Did your grandfather, so your great grandfather's |
| 1:44.1 | thought, this is an illegal war. Your lives, your lips, your futures have been sacrificed for a |
| 1:53.9 | senseless war condemned by the entire world. Like the Dozin power in the ground. |
| 1:58.6 | This film that he's put up, it's like nine minutes long or something. And he starts off from a |
| 2:03.0 | position of love and respect. He says, when I was a child, I watched this Russian bodybuilder |
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