Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's The Wall Builders Show, taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. And today, you get to drive the conversation. Send those questions in to Radio at wallbuilders.com. That's Radio at wallbuilders.com. Maybe a question about the founders, perhaps application of that constitutional or maybe historical or biblical perspective on some issue of the day that you're hearing about. So send those questions in. We'd love to hear from you. We'll get to as many of those as we can today. I'm Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. Gosh, Foundations of Freedom Thursday. Let's get into some foundations.

You ready for some questions? Yeah, speaking of driving the conversation today, my dad and I are both

in a car right now. You're literally driving the conversation. Yeah. So fortunately, we're both passengers, so we're not driving and trying to do a radio program all the same time.

But, you know, if you hear maybe some directions across or if you hear some car noises,

probably there won't be any sirens related to us.

Probably.

But we are literally driving right now.

There's a possibility the sirens would not apply to David and Tim Barton.

So they're not driving the car.

Never.

But they are, well, no, no, we're letting the audience drive the conversation.

So you guys are just background noise, no driving at all, I guess.

Okay, so first question is about the whole Doge thing and the audience drive the conversation. So you guys are just background noise, no driving at all, I guess. Okay, so first question is about the whole Doge thing and the effort that's being made.

And Pamela said, I've heard the term forensic accounting to describe what they're doing.

Is that a fairly accurate description?

You know, great question.

This is kind of, I guess it's not entirely new territory. Reagan had David,

oh, I'm blanking on his name now, but, you know, had his kind of cost-cutting effort. Clinton and

Gore had their cost-cutting efforts. So it's not that we're totally blazing a new trail. It's just

deeper and probably more forensic than we've seen in my lifetime anyway. What do you guys think?

I mean, if you can take the thought of a

medical forensic, like an autopsy that a doctor does after you have a death of some kind or a body

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