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Diane Rehm: On My Mind

Fact-checking the 2024 election

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

WAMU 88.5

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🗓️ 5 September 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump began his political career with demands to see Barack Obama’s birth certificate, based on the false claim that the he had been born outside of the United States. In other words, a lie.

The former president concluded his term in office with an even bigger lie, namely that the 2020 election was rigged.

In between, Trump fibbed thousands of times about things big and small. And keeping track of these mistruths and exaggerations were political fact-checkers, journalists whose job it is to call out not only Donald Trump’s lies – but the lies all politicians tell.

Glenn Kessler has been the chief writer and editor of the Fact Checker column for The Washington Post since 2011. In it he examines the “truth behind the rhetoric.”

Kessler joined Diane to talk about how his job has changed since Donald Trump entered politics and the challenges of covering the 2024 presidential election.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Diane. On my mind, fact-checking the 2024 election.

0:09.0

Donald Trump began his political career with a lie.

0:13.4

I was just informed while on the helicopter

0:17.6

that our president has finally released a birth certificate.

0:23.4

He concluded his term in office with a bigger line.

0:27.4

I want to provide an update on our ongoing efforts to expose the tremendous voter fraud and irregularities which took place during

0:36.2

the ridiculously long November 3rd elections.

0:39.9

The former president feared thousands of times about things big and small.

0:46.3

And keeping track of ease on truths and exaggerations were political fact checkers, journalists whose job it is to call out not only

0:57.2

Donald Trump's lies but the lies all politicians still. Glenn Kessler has been the chief writer and editor of the Fact Checker

1:08.2

column for the Washington Post since 2011. In it he examines the, quote, truth behind the rhetoric. He joined me to talk

1:20.3

about his job and how it's changed since Donald Trump entered politics and the

1:27.3

challenges of covering this presidential election.

1:40.0

Glenn, you're a pioneer in fact-checking. You've been doing it since 2011.

1:44.0

When you got started, what were you hoping to offer the public?

1:50.0

The main thing is to make people better informed about complex issues, complex policy issues that politicians often talk about.

2:01.0

I always view the fact checker as an effort to

2:05.6

demystify things, for instance budget policy or health care policy or foreign

2:11.6

policy, the types of things that politicians in order to advance

2:16.6

their policy agendas will often simplify, mislead, use shortcuts, and in an ideal world, this is particularly the pre-Trump world,

2:30.1

I would be able to take a very deep look at a statement made by a politician and use that as an educational way to help people understand these complex issues.

2:41.0

In the end, I give a Pinocchio rating, which is, you know, how false or true the statement

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