Hey everyone. Welcome to Being Well. I'm Forrest Hansen. I'm joined today as usual by Dr. Rick Hansen. So Rick how are you doing?

I'm doing great overall. I'm now out of a two-week flu, but I'm still clearing stuff out of the pipes, a little

horse, so if I sound a little raspy, that's why.

We'll just lean into the radio DJ sound. It'll be great.

Of course you've got this like four-day beard continuously on your own cheese.

So you're looking pretty raspi. I mean I hear that this is sort of the stylish way to do it these days, so I'm just doing

what people tell me to do.

But all that being said, I'm actually really looking forward to doing this episode today because it means that over the next couple of weeks we're going to be releasing a couple of episodes that I've been looking forward to for a really long time.

And it's also been just kind of too long since we've had an episode with just the two of us talking about something, so I'm looking forward to that as well.

Those two conversations that we're going to be releasing are with Dr Bruce Perry and Dr Peter Levine. If the names aren't familiar to you, Dr. Perry is the senior fellow of the Child Trauma Academy and

co-author of the boy who was raised as a dog, a best-selling book about his work

with maltreated children. He's one of the world's leading experts on the impact and treatment of traumatic experiences during childhood.

Dr Levine is the creator of somatic experiencing, which is a body-oriented approach to the healing of trauma and other stress disorders and he's the

author of the classic book Waking the Tiger.

Peter's worked in the field of stress and trauma for over 40 years.

He's a friend of yours as well and he's received a lifetime achievement award from the United

States Association for Body Psychotherapy, so a incredibly established guy. As you might imagine,

some of the topics that we explore

during those two episodes could be challenging for many people. We're going to

be touching on material that could easily bring up some of the most vulnerable memories

and painful experiences a person has gone through.

I think that the material we explore in those episodes could end up being truly some of the

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