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Facial Recognition, Hummingbird Vision, Moon Lander. June 19, 2020, Part 2

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🗓️ 19 June 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Protests Shine Light On Facial Recognition Tech Problems Earlier this month, three major tech companies publicly distanced themselves from the facial recognition tools used by police. IBM CEO Arvind Krishna explained their company's move was because of facial recognition’s use in racial profiling and mass surveillance. Facial recognition algorithms built by companies like Amazon have been found to misidentify people of color, especially women of color, at higher rates—meaning when police use facial recognition to identify suspects who are not white, they are more likely to arrest the wrong person. Nevertheless, companies have been pitching this technology to the government. CEOs are calling for national laws to govern this technology, or programming solutions to remove the racial biases and other inequities from their code. But there are others who want to ban it entirely—and completely re-envisioning how AI is developed and used in communities. SciFri producer Christie Taylor talks to Ruha Benjamin, a sociologist, and AI researcher Deborah Raji about the relationship between AI and racial injustice, and their visions for slower, more community-oriented processes for tech and data science. Hummingbirds See Beyond The Rainbow Conventional wisdom suggests hummingbirds really like the color red—it’s the reason many commercial hummingbird feeders are made to look like a kind of red blossom. But it turns out that two items that both look “red” to humans may look very different to a hummingbird. That’s because these birds can see colors that humans cannot. Humans see colors through photoreceptors called cones, and we have three of them for red, green, and blue colors. But most birds, reptiles, and even some fish also have fourth cone that’s sensitive to UV light. That means they can see further into the spectrum than we can, and that they can see “non-spectral colors”—combinations of colors that aren’t directly adjacent on the rainbow, such as red+UV and green+UV. Mary Caswell Stoddard, an assistant professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at Princeton, set out to study whether hummingbirds actually make use of that ability in their everyday lives. Her team's research was published this week in the academic journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. A NASA Rover Is Catching A Private Ride To The Moon Last week, NASA announced that it had signed a $199.5 million contract with the private company Astrobotic to deliver NASA’s VIPER rover to the moon in 2023. The company will be responsible for the rover for getting the rover from Earth into space, up until the moment the rover rolls onto the lunar surface near the moon’s south pole. The rover is designed to explore for water and other resources—especially the large stores of water ice that scientists suspect may be frozen in lunar polar regions. Astrobotic CEO John Thornton joins Ira to talk about the challenges of building a new lunar lander, and the increasing involvement of commercial industry in the U.S. space program.

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This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Picture the colors of a rainbow, red, orange, yellow, so forth.

0:07.8

We can see the rainbow colors by using three different color sensing cones in our eyes. A dog or a cat has

0:14.9

only two types of color sensing cones, so their rainbow is different. Most birds and reptiles, though, have four color-sensing

0:23.2

cones, meaning they can see colors we can't experience. Boy, are they lucky. Science Friday

0:29.6

producer Alexa Lim has the rest of the story. Remember in the movie Wizard of Oz when Dorothy

0:35.3

is flying around in a sepia-colored tornado?

0:38.1

But once she lands, she opens the door to the Technicolor Emerald City, full of color.

0:44.0

Hummingbirds see the world differently from humans, literally, because our eyes can see a wider

0:48.6

range of color than we do. No special glasses needed. Humans have three types of color sensing cones, for red, green, and blue light.

0:57.0

But most birds have all those plus one more, a cone that lets them sense ultraviolet.

1:02.0

That doesn't just give them one extra color.

1:05.0

They can see combinations of ultraviolet plus other colors, like ultraviolet plus green.

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Now researchers have found that hummingbirds can use those color combinations we can't see,

1:14.6

to distinguish and learn about the food sources they visit.

1:18.4

Mary Castle Stoddard is an assistant professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at Princeton,

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and one of the authors of a study published this week in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

1:29.6

Welcome back to Science Friday, Dr. Stoddard.

1:31.8

Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here.

1:35.3

You say these birds are seeing non-spectoral colors. What does that mean?

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Well, that's right. We were really interested in understanding how hummingbirds perceive color. And as you

1:48.0

mentioned, birds have the ability to detect UV wavelengths. And that's because they have a fourth

1:55.1

color cone type that is very interesting for two reasons. The first is that it extends the spectrum of visible colors for birds.

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