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🗓️ 2 April 2025
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Our analysts Paul Walsh, Mike Wilson and Marina Zavolock debate the relative merits of U.S. and European stocks in this very dynamic market moment.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Paul Walsh, Morgan Stanley's head of European research product, |
0:06.0 | and I'm joined by my colleagues Mike Wilson, Morgan Stanley's CIO and Chief US Equity Strategist, |
0:13.0 | and Marina Zavallok, our chief European equity strategist. Investors are asking if Europe can sustain its recent stock market outperformance against the US |
0:22.3 | or if we're poised for a tactical reversal. |
0:26.1 | And today's episode is going to be a special kind of face-off, |
0:29.8 | looking at the relative merits of our US equity strategy views against our European stock market views as well. |
0:36.9 | It's Wednesday, April 2nd at 9.30 a.m. in London. |
0:43.1 | Our clients love the face-off work that we do, and I think today we've really got the ultimate |
0:47.9 | face-off looking at the relative merits of our US equity strategy views and our European stock market views as well. So when I think |
0:56.6 | about year-to-date, Mike, so I'm going to start with you. Europe's obviously done pretty well. I mean, |
1:01.7 | we've seen clearly defense and banks being the main thrust of that performance relative to the US. |
1:07.2 | And when we look at US equities, and I think this has been very consistent, honestly, with the views that you've been expressing since the start of the year. |
1:13.3 | There's been weakness there, driven by a range of factors that I think everybody listening in will understand and are well documented. |
1:20.1 | But the key from my side is, I sense you think there may be a tactical opportunity here and that we could be on the cusp of seeing something of a rotation back into |
1:28.8 | U.S. equity. So I wanted to hear your views, how they're evolving, and if you think there's a |
1:32.9 | real tactical opportunity here. I've not really been surprised in how the U.S. equity market has |
1:37.8 | traded this year, given our view in the sequencing of policy. I think the surprise for me anyways |
1:43.2 | is just how much Europe has gone up. |
1:46.0 | And I think a lot of that just has to do with flows and flows of capital. |
1:49.7 | So, I mean, to me, the question for whether this is going to be, you know, kind of a structural |
1:53.9 | change is like what's really driving the outperformance in the near term? Is this something that is, |
1:59.4 | you know, temporary or is it something that's more secular and structural? And I think it's probably something that is, you know, temporary or is it something that's more |
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