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Music Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favro, and my guest host for today is a friend and fellow podcaster who, like me and Nancy Pelosi, is probably not getting an invite to this year's White House Christmas Party.

The New York Times, Ezra Klein, host of the Ezra Klein Show.

Good to be here, man.

Here at the end or maybe the beginning of all things.

Yes, yeah, well, we'll see.

We're going to talk all about what happened last week, what's next, and where Democrats go from here.

But first, I'm just curious how on a personal level, you've been processing the election results and the new reality in which we find ourselves again. We're starting in the therapy space yeah this is my democrats

will lose elections we're all about trauma and not about the middle class um look i i'm a professional

political journalist i will feel my feelings in three months right now now, there's a lot to do. I sort of feel

the same way, and I'm not a professional political journalist. I'm a form of a democratic hack.

Yeah, right. Yeah. So, no, but I kind of feel the same way. I see you're back on Twitter,

which is always a signal to me that we are indeed in a bad place.

I like that I've become, like, my deciding to tweet for a couple days has become like a harbinger of doom.

Yeah.

It's like a horseman.

I like, I come back to Twitter.

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