Eyes Wide Open: The Consequences of Finding Out, with Tom Junod
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Pablo Torre
4.7 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
From 9/11 and Ali to sharing a bed with Nicole Kidman and outing Kevin Spacey, he was already one of the greatest — and most confrontational — magazine writers of all time. Then Tom Junod decided to investigate his own father's "Mad Men"-Lib of a secret life. What could possibly go wrong? What would Mr. Rogers think? And what the hell was in that briefcase?
• Read "In the Days of My Youth I Was Told What It Means to Be a Man: A Memoir" by Tom Junod
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out, presented by eBay Live. |
| 0:03.3 | I am Pablo Torre, and today you're going to find out what this sound is. |
| 0:07.6 | The phone rang, and I went and pick up, and there's this voice, |
| 0:14.5 | hey, this is Tom Cruise? Is my wife there? |
| 0:17.8 | And I said, you know, yeah, Tom, she's she's right here in my bed. |
| 0:23.9 | Right after this ad. |
| 0:30.9 | I am wearing what I now realize is a cardigan that's not intentionally an homage to the cardigan. |
| 0:40.6 | Yeah. |
| 0:41.0 | And therefore to you. |
| 0:42.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:42.9 | But it hasn't pointed out to me. |
| 0:44.4 | Cardigan on the Lou thing or Cardigan on the Fred thing? |
| 0:47.4 | I dare say there is resonance in both of those characters. |
| 0:50.6 | I would say so. |
| 0:51.5 | I feel like you got to explain, Tom, do you know, who Fred is? |
| 0:56.5 | Because you're on a first name basis. Okay. So Fred is Fred Rogers. Fred is also known as Mr. |
| 1:01.9 | Rogers. He was the children's television host from early 70s onto just before he died in |
| 1:10.8 | 2003. |
| 1:12.3 | Yeah. |
| 1:12.7 | And he was the emblem not only |
| 1:15.0 | of sort of incredibly nerdy |
| 1:17.7 | children's television. |
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