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The Fox News Rundown

Extra: Why Crime Stats Sometimes Don't Reflect Reality

The Fox News Rundown

FOX News Podcasts

Daily News, News, Politics

3.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

When President Donald Trump’s crime crackdown began earlier this month in Washington, D.C., local officials and critics pushed back, arguing that federalizing the city and bringing in the National Guard was unnecessary because crime was decreasing in the nation’s capital. They said the crime statistics disputed the President's complaint that the city was "out of control." President Trump has since publicly questioned those crime statistics, and his Department of Justice has opened an investigation into whether the city’s police department manipulated the crime numbers to make the city appear safer than it is. Before the DOJ investigation was announced, FOX News Rundown host Dave Anthony spoke with Rafael Mangual, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and member of the Council on Criminal Justice, about crime statistics, how they are gathered, why they’re flawed, and how they can be manipulated. Mangual also weighed in on President Trump's actions and whether they will be effective in the long term. We often must cut interviews short during the week, but we thought you might like to hear the full interview. Today on Fox News Rundown Extra, we will share our entire interview with the Manhattan Institute's Rafael Mangual, allowing you to learn even more about crime statistics and how they sometimes don't reflect reality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Fox News Rundown Extra.

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I'm Dave Anthony.

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Today, the Trump crackeddown on Washington, D.C. crime.

1:28.6

The president has been hailing it as a success, making the nation's capital safer.

1:33.3

He even went out on the streets on Thursday, handing out pizzas and burgers to some of the National Guard soldiers out on patrol along with federal agents joining D.C. police. He also

1:39.2

put under federal supervision. Now, Washington's mayor has called it unprecedented and unsettling. The city's

1:45.4

attorney general's called it unlawful. The D.C. Council says it's unnecessary. As they all

1:51.1

tout police statistics showing violent crime way down this year after dropping to a 30-year low in

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2024. The president, he calls those numbers false and highly inaccurate.

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