When President Donald Trump’s crime crackdown began earlier this month in Washington, D.C., local officials and critics pushed back, arguing that federalizing the city and bringing in the National Guard was unnecessary because crime was decreasing in the nation’s capital. They said the crime statistics disputed the President's complaint that the city was "out of control." President Trump has since publicly questioned those crime statistics, and his Department of Justice has opened an investigation into whether the city’s police department manipulated the crime numbers to make the city appear safer than it is. Before the DOJ investigation was announced, FOX News Rundown host Dave Anthony spoke with Rafael Mangual, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and member of the Council on Criminal Justice, about crime statistics, how they are gathered, why they’re flawed, and how they can be manipulated. Mangual also weighed in on President Trump's actions and whether they will be effective in the long term. We often must cut interviews short during the week, but we thought you might like to hear the full interview. Today on Fox News Rundown Extra, we will share our entire interview with the Manhattan Institute's Rafael Mangual, allowing you to learn even more about crime statistics and how they sometimes don't reflect reality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices