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People I (Mostly) Admire

EXTRA: Remembering Susan Wojcicki

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The former YouTube C.E.O. — and sixteenth Google employee — died on August 9, 2024. Steve talked with her in 2020 about her remarkable career, and how her background in economics shaped her work.

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0:00.0

I was deeply saddened to hear the news of Susan Wojiske's recent passing.

0:06.2

She'd been battling cancer for the past two years.

0:08.9

Susan was the former CEO of YouTube and the fifth guest I ever had on the show back in 2020.

0:16.3

It was right in the middle of COVID lockdown and it was the only time we ever spoke, but I've had

0:21.6

a soft spot in my heart for Susan ever since.

0:24.8

Two things stand out for me in this interview.

0:27.0

The first is said she actually gave meaningful answers to tough questions.

0:31.5

I found that most CEOs are so concerned about how they and

0:35.0

their company are perceived to think of completely nondescript responses

0:38.9

when talking in public. Susan, in contrast, seemed eager to have a real conversation.

0:44.0

The second thing that caught me off guard about the interview is that she was actually nice.

0:49.0

It's really hard to rise that high in the business world and to stay nice.

0:54.8

She will be deeply missed.

0:57.6

I'm so excited to talk today with Susan Wojiske.

1:00.8

She's the CEO of YouTube and she's just had an amazing career in tech.

1:06.1

And she's done it without really attracting all the hatred that seems to circle so many of the

1:11.1

powerful people in tech.

1:12.4

She doesn't really have any enemies.

1:14.0

I'll go to places really remote and then I'll see someone they'll be like,

1:18.0

hey, I learned Korean on YouTube, right? And so the opportunities for technology have just changed our lives in so many

1:25.0

ways and I recognize that there are all these questions about responsibility but I'm overall

1:29.9

really optimistic about our opportunities to help people all over the world have access

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