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The From the home of the co-breakers and the birthplace of modern computing, this is the Bletchley Park podcast.

Hello, this is M.C. Fontaine, welcoming you to another Bletchley Park podcast Extra.

For this episode, again, we're returning to the Turing Education Day lectures. Most people

know Alan Turing for his work as either a mathematician, code breaker, or maybe even the father of

modern computing. But Margaret Bowden gave a fascinating talk on his lesser-known work in the field of biology.

Again, the introduction is by Lord Brockett.

Our next speaker is Margaret Bowden.

Now Margaret is a research professor of cognitive science at the University of

Sussex. She's a member of the academia, European, and a fellow of the British Academy of the American

Association for Artificial Intelligence. She holds degrees in medical sciences, philosophy, psychology,

and goes on and on and makes me feel rather stupid.

The man who actually took three attempts at getting math so level.

There's three honorary doctorates from Sussex, Bristol and the Open University.

She's vice president and chairman of the Council of the Royal Institution from 93 until 95.

In the New Year's Honours list of 2002, she was awarded an OBE.

Her latest books are the creative mind, myths and mechanisms, mind as machine, a history

of cognitive science, and creativity and art, three roads to surprise.

We're very lucky to have Margaret with us today, and so I won't delay any more. Over to you, Margaret.

For me, and I'm sure for you too, this is a place of pilgrimage, and I'm absolutely delighted to be here.

Two and a half centuries ago, William Blake asked a very deep question. Tiger, tiger, burning bright in the forests of the night,

what immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful symmetry? Did he who made the lamb make thee?

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