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Extra: A Modern Whaler Speaks Up

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4.632K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Bjorn Andersen killed 111 minke whales this season. He tells us how he does it, why he does it, and what he thinks would happen if whale-hunting ever stopped.

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Stephen Dovner. If you are a regular listener, you may have just heard

0:12.7

our series called Everything You Never New About Whaling. We spoke with economists, historians,

0:18.7

a mobi dick scholar, and an environmental activist whose mission in life is to stop

0:24.3

whale hunting. We also tried to speak with a whale hunter, but

0:29.0

public sentiment against whale hunting is so strong that most modern whalers don't want

0:33.8

to speak with the press. Also, there just aren't that many whalers around anymore. In the

0:38.8

1960s, at the peak of industrial whale hunting, thousands of whalers in more than a dozen

0:44.7

countries were killing tens of thousands of whales a year. Today, commercial whaling

0:50.2

happens in only three countries, Norway, Iceland, and Japan. And collectively, they only

0:55.9

kill around a thousand whales a year. There just isn't much demand for whale meat. It

1:01.9

turns out, and even less for whale oil. Anyway, we couldn't get a modern whaler to go

1:07.1

on the record with us until, just recently, after we'd completed our series. His name

1:13.1

is Bjorn Anderson, and he's one of the biggest whalers in Norway. The Norwegian government

1:18.9

allows for the harvest of 1,000 minka whales a year. The minka is plentiful. It's not

1:24.8

at all an endangered species. Even so, Anderson and his fellow whalers usually take only

1:31.0

around half of the allowed quota each year. Like I said, not much demand for whale meat

1:37.0

these days. When we caught up with Anderson, he had just finished his whaling season. In

1:42.9

the conversation you're about to hear, he tells us why he loves hunting whales and how

1:48.0

he does it. Why harvesting whales is important to maintaining the supply of fish, and why

1:54.2

he thinks it in the future, there will be more whale hunting and not less. That's coming

1:59.4

up on today's bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio, starting now.

2:09.5

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