From the Secret Caball Studios, it's the Secret Caball Express.

Today, Don Tony and Jamie present a designer spotlight of Jamie Stigmire.

And now, please welcome the Secret Cabal founders.

Hey, now, Kappaas, and welcome to another episode of the Secret Kapal Express.

This is Jamie.

Tony here.

Hello, hello.

This is Don. Well, fellas, I've been on a crazy

role-playing game kick. You know, the past few, if anybody listened to the last episode yet,

I talked about how I sort of have this like almost new awakening in my love of gaming and you know it's some painting miniatures like

crazy i'm you know reading rulebooks for board games like crazy and role playing games specifically

i'm getting really fired up about so i'm writing this this this campaign uh for some people

that i'm going to run it for and uh i got to tell you, like, I'm drawing maps.

I'm, like, writing up stories for various characters of the world.

I'm just doing all of this preparation work for this fantasy setting that I'm going to have

these people play in.

And I'll tell you, it took me back to when I was young, to when I was a little, like, younger guy when I just discovered, you know, D&D for the first time.

And this is the kind of crap I was doing.

I was drawing pictures of my characters.

I was drawing maps of the city and drawing maps of the taverns that we were in.

And I was going wild.

And it's just like, it's something about the, the the this whole process is bringing me back to an

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