From the Secret Cabball Studios, it's the Secret Cabball Express.

Today, Don and Jamie discussed challenges in board game.

And now, please welcome the Secret Cup Ball Founders.

Hey, now, Coppola, and welcome to another episode of the Secret Cup Ball Express.

This is Jamie.

Hello, hello, this is Don.

Well, Don, I got to tell you, in last episode, we even kind of mentioned it in the last episode after when we were doing the news or when we were doing the review.

You were talking about how you played dissent and how much you were enjoying dissent.

And prior to that episode, I was completely not interested.

You know, even Steve said in the banter, I'm not really interested in that.

I don't think any of us was really interested.

I know.

And the dominoes, the junky dominoes started to fall.

Isn't that? I don't understand it.

It wasn't even two days later after I said I wasn't interested in it.

I had a thing and I had it set up on my table and I was fired up to play this thing. And I got to tell you, like I played it with the gang on last Tuesday and they loved it. They were like, oh, we got to play this next week. This is going to be great. Yeah. I've played it. I've only played it solo so far, but I've really enjoyed it.

I was the same way.

I was like, I'm not really interested in this.

And our buddy Ben Waxman, he said, he texts me, said, man, you're going to love this.

And I was like, ah, it just looks so good.

I like the look of the terrain.

You know, you see that setup in the pictures they have on board game geek and on the back of the box and stuff you're like oh it just looks so cool if it can deliver on that and uh so it is very expensive right it's very expensive and that's

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