From the Secret Cabball Studios, it's the Secret Caball Express.

Today, Christon and Jamie discuss the four types of immersion in tabletop games.

And now, please welcome the secret

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founders

hey now cabals and welcome to another episode of the secret

cabal express this is jamie

hey this is Chris

and this is Steve I always feel like so, this is Chris. And this is Steve.

I always feel like, so hello, this is Don.

I always feel like it's got to be Steve at the end, though, because I'm so used to us.

And this is Steve.

Whenever he's not here, I feel like since I'm usually next to last, right, I have to come in and do something stupid, crazy.

Yeah, right. You know, I find that funny in the last lords of the dungeon episode jesko wasn't involved and at the end of

the episode when i said good night everybody everybody else just stayed silent uh because they were

waiting for jesko to say good night everybody and no one said a word and then

everybody started fighting because they were like I'm first no I'm ever and I it was ridiculous

we've done that a couple times at the intro to the show or for some reason we forget the order

that we say it in I remember when I first started doing the show with you guys, the first two or three times,

I had to think about it.

And like I'd tell I was throwing the cadence off.

Like everybody was all screwed up because they're like, when's Dawn supposed to come in?

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