Through COVID, through suspension, and cancellation, and lawsuit for the last 16 months of my time at ESPN that was public against the company for which I was still working, did my best work.

But in the midst of this, you were also getting a divorce.

Okay, end the show, end the program.

And I think when you get a divorce, it's a failure in some ways.

I just had to forgive myself.

And, I mean, from a spiritual aspect, like, I thought God was gonna be really mad at me. I look back on that time in the fear, because then you have to go to work. So I remember, you know, you get a difficult text message or talk, a conversation with an attorney. Sometimes in commercial breaks, then your back on that light comes on. And whatever's going on in your personal life has to go in the back. I was on air with another one of these women who I idolized. And at the end of our two-hour sports center show, she said something nasty in the last 20 seconds to me. Oh, it was on air. Oh, it's live on air. When you've been, you know, controlled by a machine for 30 years with network television.

But now to try it on my own and be able to say, hey, Dave said, come on down, you know, an hour or so drive from where I live in Fort Lauderdale. Like, I don't have to ask permission. Yeah. I can just go do what I want. When the team Trump called and they're like, you want to come with Laura. And I was like, what? Yeah. Let's just go.

Let's say yes to everything and try it.

Like when you say yes, let's just go. Let's say yes to everything and try it.

Like, when you say yes, crazy things can happen.

All right, Sage.

First off, your past intros.

You're past, there's nothing, what am I possibly going to say about you at this point?

Nothing, because we're actual friends now. We are literal actual friends. As everyone knows, I'm off the grid right now. So let's be very clear. This is the end of July as we're taping this,

but it is August. I'm gone. No phone. I have no idea what's going on. You were gracious enough to bring me back last year, which was, of all the years that I've done it, I think it was the most sort of impactful and spiritual and, you know, the story about the birds and all that stuff. So I am MIA right now, but we're doing a little bit of, you know, you have to stay in front of the algorithm.

So I thought, who can we talk to that we can talk about some other stuff during August?

That's not so political and everything else.

And we're sitting in here with my whole crew right now and one of your daughters is here.

And they're using all their young language.

Yeah.

And they're telling us all about the TikTok and all of this stuff.

And we're of a certain age. We both, I just realized, also have our glasses on the table. What's happening to us,

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