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🗓️ 26 February 2024
⏱️ 60 minutes
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In Episode 354 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with investigative journalist Byron Tau, who specializes in law, courts, and national security, about how a hidden alliance between technology companies and the government is creating a new American surveillance state.
Many of you are probably thinking, “Yeah, I know this. We all have cell phones. They have GPS trackers, and my phone calls are being monitored. Tell me something I don’t know.” Yet, the truth is that our smartphones, wearable devices, networked homes, credit cards, and even the tires we drive on emit an overwhelming amount of data revealing details about our lives, daily habits, and most intimate behaviors that would astonish you. That data is being captured and available for sale, and the U.S. government is its biggest customer.
In the first hour of this conversation, you will learn that in the years after 9/11, the U.S. government, working with scores of anonymous companies, built a foreign and domestic surveillance apparatus that can peer into the lives of nearly everyone on the planet. This cottage industry of data brokers and government bureaucrats has one directive—“Get everything. Get it all.” The result is something resembling a sci-fi dystopia, like an episode out of Black Mirror, and the public knows virtually nothing about it.
In the second hour, Byron and Demetri discuss the near-term implications of this surveillance state for American democracy, personhood, and freedom. They discuss the role of TikTok and other foreign companies and actors that are able to access this same data marketplace. They discuss the role of agent provocateurs and how location-based applications can be used to foment riots and manipulate people into mobs and other forms of collective action. They also discuss the role of prominent voices on the American right and what they leave out when discussing censorship in media. Most importantly, they discuss what can be done through legislation and regulation to restrain government agencies and private companies operating in the surveillance economy and what you can do on a personal level to mitigate these entities’ and actors’ access to your private life.
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Episode Recorded on 02/20/2024
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0:00.0 | What's up everybody? My name is Demetric Afinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces, a |
0:06.2 | podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives and learn how to think critically |
0:15.7 | about the systems of power shaping our world. For the past five years, |
0:20.5 | investigative journalist Byron Tao has been piecing together a secret story. |
0:25.2 | How the whole of the internet and every digital device in the world became a mechanism |
0:30.2 | of intelligence gathering, surveillance, and control. |
0:34.0 | Now, I'm sure most of you are thinking, yeah, yeah, I know this. |
0:38.0 | We all have cell phones, they have GPS trackers, my phone calls are being monitored, |
0:42.0 | yada yada, yada. |
0:43.4 | Tell me something I don't know. |
0:45.3 | But the truth is that our smartphones, |
0:47.8 | our wearable technologies, our networked homes, |
0:50.6 | our credit cards, even the tires we drive on amid an overwhelming amount of data that |
0:56.7 | revealed details about our lives, our daily habits, and most intimate behaviors that |
1:02.1 | would astonish you. |
1:03.7 | All of that data is being captured and is available for sale and the US government |
1:08.8 | is its biggest customer. |
1:11.0 | What you're going to learn in the first hour of today's conversation is that in the years |
1:15.2 | after 9-11, the U.S. government working with scores of anonymous companies, many scattered |
1:20.6 | across bland office parks in suburban Washington, built a foreign and |
1:25.0 | domestic surveillance apparatus that can peer into the lives of nearly |
1:29.1 | everyone on the planet, a cottage industry of data brokers and government bureaucrats that has one directive |
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